Circuit - does MIDI clock in also come out?

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CreationMatrix
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Circuit - does MIDI clock in also come out?

Presently in my band I receive midi clock from a master source and that goes into my Mininova via DIN. I'd like to add a Circuit to my setup but I'd need the MIDI clock I'm receiving to go into the Circuit, then out to the Mininova via the DIN out. I will sometimes be playing the Nova directly and sometimes from the Circuit (I'm a bloody awful keyboard player) to take advantage of the scales mode. What I've found with other solutions (such as an iPad, iRig and apps) is that I can send midi note data to my Mininova but not clock, even if the other device is receiving clock. 

 

tl;dr does MIDI clock received by the Circuit go out to instruments down the chain, regardless of whether I'm using it as a controller/sequencer or not, because if so I'll buy one!

 

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timbeaux
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I recently read in another forum, that you can use a headphone splitter to split the midi clock.

 

volg4
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timbeaux wrote:

I recently read in another forum, that you can use a headphone splitter to split the midi clock. 

 

thats interesting! anybody tried this? i might give it a go...

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Hi CreationMatrix,

The Circuit will clock off external MIDI clock when Auto Sync is set to ON. This will make the unit respond to any tempo changes being sent to it, but it will also affect the MIDI Out of the Circuit, allowing your MiniNova to be connected. Because this is not a MIDI Thru function, the MiniNova would be adjusting to the clock changes of the Circuit as opposed to the original source.

We tested this by running clock out of Ableton into the Circuit, followed by MIDI Out to the MiniNova. After adjusting the MiniNova's clock source to "DIN MIDI", the MiniNova would adjust it's tempo when changing it within Ableton allowing both units to sync to the MIDI clock source.

Matthew Kurpakus // Novation Technical Support

 

CreationMatrix
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Thanks Matthew, I'll be gigging with my Circuit and Mininova on Monday :)

Bulaw
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Last night I tried syncing up my Circuit with Ableton for the first time. The issue I found was that when I tried to sync abletion to the Circuit, Ableton's tempo would jitter around like crazy. It was unusable. Sending Ableton's clock to Circuit worked just fine. I can just use it that way and it'll be fine. Just wondering if this is a bug though and if it would affect syncing up hardware to Circuit without any computer (using the DIN MIDI).

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@Bulaw - I saw problems like this before: It is the interaction with Circuits "auto sync" and Live's MIDI settings: The cure is to go to Live's Preferences > MIDI Sync section, and be sure sync is enabled on only input Circuit or output Circuit, but not both. If you want to sync Live to the Circuit, then only enable sync on the input side.

I had hoped to "set it and forget it" by turning them both on, and then letting Live's EXT button let me decide which way I was syncing - but that doesn't work: If you have Sync enabled for both input Circuit and output Circuit, then when Live sync's to the Circuit (you have EXT enabled), then it echos clock to the Circuit, which then auto-detects sync and send it back to Live... and you get the picture!

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@mzero - So I finally got to try this out. But when I select only midi sync input from circuit it still has the tempo jittering in Ableton. Only stable when tempo is synced from Ableton.