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STF
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Recording MiniNova in Logic

First off, apologies for the noob-ness of this post!

How do I get my mininova to act more like a vst/au in Logic?  What I'm doing now is running my mininova stereo outputs into my mac's stereo input jack and capturing tracks as though they were live audio recordings.  But this has obvious limitations, including the fact that I can't lay down a track in midi then go back and tweak the sound via the mininova editor.  I mean, I can tweak the sound still, but then I have to re-record the hole thing.  Not ideal.

If I were to get a USB interface like, say, Focusrite's Scarlett 2i4, would that allow Logic to capture editable midi notes that I can then tweak without having to rerecord?  Would I be able to record a sequence with one patch then scroll through how it sounds with different mininova patches?

Thanks again!  Sorry for those of you who just banged your head against the table.  I have a music background, but not one in tech :)

(p.s. I'm aware that I could do some of these things with Logic's Flex Pitch, but that's kind of a pain in the butt.)

skijumptoes
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You use the mininova plugged in to it's USB cable as a midi device, this allows you to record and play back midi data, so once you have a sequence and sound that you're happy with - you can then mix down to audio, like you're doing now.

Doing this also allows you to layer control/automation data, for example you could record the cutoff values in one pass, the resonance in another, or maybe envelope parameters - and of course the big fat quantize functions!! :)

One thing to note is that when using the editor on a midi track in logic, it will set the mininova to Local Off - meaning that you need to have the midi channel you've set up record enabled to be able to hear the instrument play back as you press the keys.

just post back if you have any questions.

JBosher123
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I am wondering this as well. Is there no way you can avoid having to record it as an audio clip and just use it like a plug in synth where midi triggers the audio e.g. ES2 or Massive. 
And then you can tweak the sound using the hardware part of it but just leave it as a midi track? 

It seems a bit counter intuitive as once i have a sound i like, ill have to save the midi notes i used as well as the patch in the editor and if i want to re edit the sound ill have to reload the plug in, patch and re bounce the sound rather than just changing a couple of midi notes. 

skijumptoes
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Soft synths are very convenient, that's really all i can say - Hardware offers you hands on control, reliability (OS upgrade can break a soft synth) and repeatability (Likewise a software update can change how a soft synth sounds).  So while they're convenient there's a lot of hidden dangers there if you're saving projects and reliying on software to load up correctly in the years to come.

You need a workflow to work to if you want to recall everything in future and it becomes second nature - It's no different to how a guitarist operates though.  In my experience it's only a good thing to be recording the actual audio into clips as it's recallable in the future without the needs for any additional software - i've been in the position where plugins i use a lot no longer work on a new OS install, or a migration to another computer and everything is screwed - really annoying.

I personally record everything live into audio now, but then the mininova is something i can dial any sound in relatively quick so not an issue to be able to store all the midi and patch data.  Sometimes you just have to let go and treat it as an instrument, like a guitarist would their guitar - and you will find that you flow much better in making the music you want.