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mixalis
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Ideas for future updates

Hi everyone..This could be a very useful topic so we can all say our ideas about future developement of the OS. 

( and who knows if they come true)  

1. Make it multitimbral 

2.More space for sounds ( my sound banks are already full of presets )

3.add more oscilators                

                                    

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1 would be nice, but I think the limitation with that is the per-instrument effects, there simply isn't the processing power to handle multiple instruments with multiple effects on multiple instruments - playing more than one note at the same time on the other hand all run through the same effects chain. Perhaps with the option to allow multitimbrality but have disabled effects or unified effects chain this might be possible, but I don't know.

2 is probably impossible, since this is going to be limited by the RAM in the Ultranova.

3 would be nice. Also would be nice to have FM, allowing one oscillator to modulate another, though I have heard this requires very precise oscillation.

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I'm happy with my Ultranova, but would be even happier if you put the pan option on each oscillator. This will give the possibility of even richer sounds!! :)

Simon
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Liquid analogue low pass filter and lfo depth.

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Make it more user friendly out of the box

-no crashes winlib

-sorting category / style in librarian

-sort on banks on ultranova easyier

-sort of usable prelistening function, cause not all can stored on the limited banks

ok you do not use them all but what time a man need to sort all the sounds he did not want to delete them

mixalis
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Ι almost forgot! Make a hold fuction at the touch buttons... So that when you want to leave your hand of  the touch button the effect remain there..

I think this is already included in the mininova..SO why not to the ultranova?? 

( Sorry for this one but i cant find how to delete a sound from the ultranova itself, without using the librarian. Is there something that i am missing or there is not that ability? )

If not... then here is another idea for future update!

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Keep 'em coming - I'm making notes. :)

mixalis
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Make a granular synthesis algorithm for the ultranova.. ( Ok now i am dreaming) 

But i am wondering is this possible synthwise?

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Another idea would be to make some presets for the effects... And some combination of the effects like chains

But ofcourse always keep the ability to start from scratch..

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I mentioned it in the above post, but it would be good if you could customize the display under the of the Animate/Touch function. By this I mean what is displayed on the LCDs under the knobs when touch is engaged. Currently it displays some sort of indication of parameters; it would be nice if alternately you could use the software editor to customize it to display "REVERB" or "OCTAVE DWN" or whatever label one wishes. As it is, you have to have it memorized or just try it.

 

RI.

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Twist a knob in "Touch" mode to Latch it on.

RI.

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Remote Index wrote:

Twist a knob in "Touch" mode to Latch it on.RI.

I got so excited when I saw this. I thought this was current functionality (as a respones to the earliear suggestions) rather than an implementation suggestion for the suggested feature. So I guess i'm saying I second this!

 

 

 

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make a special user category so that we find the patches we made nice and easy from the ultranova without searching the other categories..

and a favorite category would be sooo usefull ..( for example ..pressing compare and write button simultaneously adds a sound to the favourite bank)

When is ultranovas  next update?  : )

mixalis
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make a standalone version of the editor.. It will be usefull for many users for sure!  

 

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The ability to use Ultranova as outboard effects processor through its USB itnerface.
So I can send audio from DAW to its FX via USB and get the result back again via USB without aditional audio card.
In the same way as it did in my VIrus TI Snow.

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iSynth wrote:

The ability to use Ultranova as outboard effects processor through its USB itnerface. So I can send audio from DAW to its FX via USB and get the result back again via USB without aditional audio card.In the same way as it did in my VIrus TI Snow.

I didn't reread all of these to see if anyone mentioned this but you can do this.
I've been meaning to try it to see if this would work and I just did and it does.

If you take patch cords and connect aux outputs 3 and 4 to inputs 1 and 2 and use the Novation ASIO driver you can

  • create a bus in Cubase for outputs 3 and 4 
  • route your audio to that bus
  • make a patch that has the left and right inputs as the waveform in two oscillators
  • set levels to taste, mine was an unholy mess until I set levels properly BTW
  • you need to have a note sounding to hear anything
  • works like a charm

When I say set levels I mean primarily in the menus under the "Audio" button on the far left of the Ultranova.

 

 

 

 

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Improve the Algorithm so that when you change sounds wont cut them immediately but smoothly!

mixalis
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It would also be nice if the ultranova notifed you everytime you make tweeks to a sound and change preset.

As it is now, it just changes and any tweeks  are lost

Taylor we count on you : )

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I note that when you use the EFFECTS button to enter the EFFECTS MENU, and then use the BACK and NEXT page buttons to step down into the menu pages, the deepest level (which gives you access to specific parameters for each effect) does not change unless you change a parameter on a higher level.

 

For example - if you use the deepest level to change DISTORT parameters, and then move back up to the effects mixer level, and then wish to go down into, for example the REVERB parameters, you will end up back in the distort parameters. This is true even if you "touch" the rotaries and have a red LED indicating a different parameter. The only way to change the lowest level menu is to change a parameter higher up (ie in the example above, changing the REVERB level by 1 will then allow you to page down into the REVERB parameters).

 

The access to these lower level menues should change simply by "choosing" an FX slot (ie by touching the rotary above it) without having to change any parameters.

 

RI.

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I note that with some of the time-based effects, (Ie Reverb and Delay) there can be audible clicks if you change the BPM being referenced (ie in the Arpeggiator Settings); it might be worth referencing this in the documentation, or (ideally!) refining the implementation so that live changes in timing don't result in these audio artefacts.

 

RI.

(Edited for spelling)

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I would really enjoy Mixalis' suggestion! "Improve the Algorithm so that when you change sounds wont cut them immediately but smoothly!". When playing live, there are many times when I need to shift between instruments quickly, and muting the trail really kills it for me :\

I changed from a Alesis Micron to an Ultranova, and the things I miss mostly are:
  - the sequencing capabilities (wishful thinking :p)
  - multi-timbrality (I found other ways to go about this though. The ultranova can create very complex and textured sounds, and I find I can get the layers I need by working with the oscillators, filters and resonance etc.)
  - and comb filters, which were really good for organic sounds. I used to make really good choir/vocal/earthy pads with them, which I don't with the ultranova.

Perhaps an app can be developed to bring sequencing into the Ultranova. Build midi maps on the iPad which drive the Ultranova through a specialized usb/ipad cable. Just thinking out loud!

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I have still noticed a discrepency between setting the tune of the oscillators on the hardware and software between -11 and -12 semitones... get that fixed first, make it run smooth in 64 bit enviroments. add panning for oscillators, add a grain delay effect, allow me to use the hardware as a more featured controller without running automap. fix the issue with not being able to save a different default clock time. (it refuses to save as being 44.1) and give us the ability to out put things like LFO or VCO output on separate channels.

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The default display for a patch leaves a lot of empty space on the LCD display (next to the patch number and name, and before the "Control Lock" display).

 

It would be useful to have an indication here (on this screen) to show if the Mod Wheel, Velocity, Aftertouch, Expression, Tweak, and Touch (and how many FX?) have been assigned to modifiers - it could be a very simple code, for example using a heading with MW VL AT EX TW TO beneath which simple numbers (or zero) indicate if they have been assigned. (Similar to currrent "Touch" LCD display).

 

This would give an "at-a-glance" summary without having to test each control.

 

RI. (Edited with additions)

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Another idea is to add an oscilloscope to the editor..The ultrascope! i already have a name for you ( the editor is so nicely done! they could improve some graphs.and add more beauty to it.)

Generally novation can take some quotes and ideas from many Good soft synths that are available.

 

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Unison, please do someting with the unison! :(
It sounds very plastic, somewhat cheep. I don't want to be rude, I love this synth and it is worth every single penny I spent, but that unison is just killing me :( There is so much more potential to this synth, if the unison was just properly designed, it would be a dream come true synth.
Add a stereo widening tool, I know the singal flow is mono, but if delay can have stereo effect, there must be a way to make an algorythm for an effect that will separate the unison or emulate just that.

Are you guys planning on doing something with that?

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Make it class compliant so it would work with iPAD, with the explosion of iOS music community it might be a good thing.

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Ok i do already know that FM synthesis is not possible. But, do you think is possible to increase the speed of one LFO for that purpose?

I am probably dreaming high, but i love this synth. With FM synthesis it would rock...i just need one LFO with higher rate frequency, just one.

 

Thank you, hope you'll think about this...if it's possible or not

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Yes nero fm synthesis in ultranova would be very interesting....But the kind of synthesis that would fit  ultranova the most is granular synthesis!   Is it possible synthwise?? I would really like to know...

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SOFTWARE EDITOR

 

It's frustrating that it doesn't always increment in single values with mouse operation - this is particularly frustrating when trying to return values to 0. A "reset" button or control-click or option-click to hit 0 automatically would also be welcomed.

 

RI.

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Consider displaying all values for time as actual time values (rather than 0-127).

Example: Envelope Delay, has a range of adjustment from 0 to 127, where 0= immediate, 60-70 = "about 1 second", 127= "about 10 seconds"

Why not simply display "No Delay", "200ms", "500ms", "1 sec", "2 secs", "5 secs", "10 secs" as appropriate.

Alternately there could be a global toggle: Time Units vs. Universal Increments (or some such).

 

RI.

 

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SOFTWARE EDITOR

 

For LFO Sequences - make the icon/visual cue representative of the actual arp/sequence (currently it shows a keyboard and MIDI symbol). In other words, the diagram/symbol could be informative (an actual diagram of the MIDI sequence values) rather than just a "symbolic" icon.

(Is there currently NO listing of what these arp / sequences actually are?)

 

RI.

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how about a function that lets me create my own arpeggio or sequence pattern. If this is already possible on the ultranova, someone please help and post a link to how to do do this. It would be very helpful though if i could do that.

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You can do that if you go to the EFFECTS section and use the GATOR effect... then you have a 2 pages to scroll, and do what you want to..The manual explaines it all about this page! enjoy... : ) 

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mixalis wrote:

You can do that if you go to the EFFECTS section and use the GATOR effect... then you have a 2 pages to scroll, and do what you want to..The manual explaines it all about this page! enjoy.

 

I think you are referring to page 33 of the manual.

It should be noted that the Gator is effectively "a 32 step volume sequencer" and thus you cannot set notes with it, only volume; however you could use this in combination with the arpeggiator section to gain some control over patterns. You'll have issues with syncing them though (I don't seem to be able to get them in sync even with parameters matched and Key Sync on for both).

 

RI.

 

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Remote Index wrote:

It should be noted that the Gator is effectively "a 32 step volume sequencer" and thus you cannot set notes with it, only volume; however you could use this in combination with the arpeggiator section to gain some control over patterns.

It seems like all the peices necesary to have a built in sequencer for each patch are so close you can taste it... 

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I don't understand why Novation can't implement at least 1 keyboard split. 2 oscilators for one sound and 1 for the other. Surely with the distort, delay and chorus 1 & 2, you could apply one to each sound in the split without chewing resources? I wouldn't mind one patch sounding a little thin if it gave me extra performance options.

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Is there a plan for a ultranova OS update in the next few months??  I would be very happy to know...  Thanks..

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Hi Mixalis,

What updates would like on the Ultra Nova, and I can send a feature request over to our developers.  

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Thanks mike..But i have already sended a request for feature updates..Most of them written here...

But what i want to know now is if novation still has plans for updating ultranova or maybe they will go on to something else..

 

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1. fm

2. unison pan spread

3. oscillators as sources in the modulation matrix

4. user wavetables

5. that mininova vocal tune thingie

KAnd1

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Hey there,

I would love to not only Latch the "touch" knobs (which would be awesome and one reason I "almost" bought the mini) 

but I would love to be able to "latch" or sustain any sound (like you can on the bass station 2 which I love) this is very useful when creating ambeint texture live with another keyboard (in my case the bs2 or the microKorg) I was given the "work" around with the Gator but being able to just latch on the fly would be most useful!

 

also I'd love a smoother transitions between sounds as well. 

Thanks so much this is quickly becoming my go to synth and I love the sounds and all the wonderful capablities. Please please continue to update and support!!

Maria

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You could get a cheap sustain pedal and use that for latching notes on/off, not the same - but it gives you an option if you want to hold a note/chord and free up your hands for tweaking cutoff etc.

I remember the mininova having an update to make the latch control work without the arp engaged, and there were many bugs i remember thinking to myself 'is this really something i would use?', but once they fixed it in an update i gotta say the latch feature really is super handy, i use it far more than what i imagined.  Really surprised the ultra hasn't got it in fact.

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Yes, thanks for reminding me about the sustain pedal. I took out my trusty boss pedal that can be used for sustain and it's sure nice to have...more so for playing actual piano parts but it really doesn't exactly do the trick. The Gator mode is a good work around but NOTHING would beat getting it done like the mini. I really hope we haven't seen the last of the updates. Novation has been nice in answering certain queries but are pretty vague when it comes to committing to any actual updates!!

Maria

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Well, the mods posted only last month on this thread, so i'm pretty sure there will be another update - the same happened with the Mininova, all went quiet and then suddenly a fix that sorted so many issues out landed out of the blue.

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I've been on 2.00.00 on the ultranova for months now.  I don't know how it happened.  I just downloaded the ostensibly 1.3 version, loaded it and now I have 2.00.
The latch knob does not work like on the Mininova.

 

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TAP TEMPO!!!!! I play in a live band and a tap tempo would be amazing!

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It looks like we wont see any other update....... Not even the hold mode that mininova has... 

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An LCD contrast control would be useful as I cannot read the screen from the angle I am sitting so have to hunch over it!

 

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Everyone,

Thank you for all the suggetions and ideas about what you would like to see on the Ultranova. We are interested in hearing feedback as we are always looking to improve upon our products. I will make sure to send this to our development team.

Matthew Kurpakus // Novation Technical Support

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It seems this ultranova have DSP.

So i want to edit or create my own wavetable.

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One thing that has always bothered me is the fact that all times related parameteres are 0-127, it would be VERY useful to have some of them in seconds o miliseconds.

Another thing is the lack of fast patch change settings, could we have a mode in Patch Browse, that allows the 8 touch encoders to select 8 favorite presets?

Oscillators as sources in the modulation matrix would be pretty cool

Can we get Higher LFO speed, to try some FM synthesis?

It would be useful to know if the sound engine is Clipping

I hope some of this could be useful.

 

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